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Senators question Trump plan to kill federal funds for PBS, NPR and some foreign aid

People participate in a rally to call on Congress to protect funding for PBS and NPR outside the NPR headquarters in Washington, DC, on March 26, 2025.
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People participate in a rally to call on Congress to protect funding for PBS and NPR outside the NPR headquarters in Washington, DC, on March 26, 2025.

Updated June 25, 2025 at 4:27 PM AKDT

Democrats and Republicans on the Senate Appropriations Committee pushed back against the Trump administration's bid to kill $9 billion in federal funding that Congress already has approved for public broadcasting and international aid programs.

In President Trump's request to Congress, sent last month, he justified the cuts because the targeted foreign aid programs were "antithetical to American interests," and because "[f]ederal spending on [the Corporation for Public Broadcasting] subsidizes a public media system that is politically biased and is an unnecessary expense to the taxpayer."

In a hearing Wednesday, Maine Republican Sen. Susan Collins, who chairs the committee, noted in the case of public broadcasting that 70% of the federal dollars targeted for rescission support local programming and emergency communications. She acknowledged concerns about NPR's news coverage, which she said "for years has had a discernibly partisan bent."

"There are, however, more targeted approaches to addressing that bias [at NPR] than rescinding all funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting," Collins said.

In response to a later question, Office of Management and Budget Director Russell Vought testified that emergency broadcasting services funded by CPB would be safe. He also argued that because the CPB rescission doesn't apply to the current fiscal year, local stations would have "ample time to adjust" and "they should be more judicious" about whom they pay for content.

Upon further questioning by Alaska Republican Sen. Lisa Murkowski, who has come out against the public broadcasting cuts, Vought committed to working with her on funding for rural stations. Yet he reiterated that Republicans have spent years trying to address public funding of content.

Murkowski later gave what she described as
"a little bit of a bird's eye view" of the public radio situation in Alaska, which includes rural stations that receive up to 70% of their funding from the federal government. She went on to detail the vital services the station supply. "[A]lmost to a number, they're saying that they will go under if public broadcasting funds are no longer available to them," she said.

The vast majority of the $9.4 billion in cuts requested by the White House are to foreign aid programs addressing global public health, international disaster assistance and hunger relief.

But the package also includes a cut of nearly $1.1 billion in funding for 2026 and 2027 for CPB. The private nonprofit sends most of that money to local public television and radio stations across the country. PBS receives about 15% of its annual revenue through CPB, while NPR gets about 1% directly. Indirectly, NPR also receives some of the money going to member stations, who pay the network to air its programs.

The rescissions measure narrowly passed the House earlier this month, 214 to 212, with two key Republican lawmakers switching their votes from "no" to "yes" at the last minute to get it over the finish line. The House held a hearing earlier this year at which many Republicans accused PBS and NPR of being woke and biased against conservative viewpoints.

On Wednesday, Sen. Patty Murray of Washington, the panel's top Democrat, questioned the legality of the White House's request. Under the 1974 Impoundment Control Act, both chambers of Congress must approve such a request by a simple majority within 45 days of its submission—in this case, by July 18.

The cuts to CPB would "rip away funding that supports over 1500 local public TV and radio stations," Murray said.

"Rural communities will be the hardest hit, not to mention our kids," she said, adding that the cuts threaten "free, high-quality programming that is thoughtfully developed to get our kids thinking and to grow their curiosity."

NPR in a statement said: "There is no substitute for the direct support and nationwide infrastructure and services funded by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting that enable these noncommercial stations to serve their communities." In a statement after the House vote this month, PBS President and CEO Paula Kerger said: "Our work is only possible because of the bipartisan support we have always received from Congress, support we have earned by providing services that cannot be replaced by commercial media."

In one exchange during Wednesday's hearing, Sen. Murray pressed Vought, saying that public broadcasting and the global HIV/AIDS program known as PEPFAR —an initiative begun in 2003 by President George W. Bush — have both enjoyed bipartisan support in the past.

"Do you believe Congress has been wrong all these years to support them?" she asked.

"I think what's changed is the nature of how these programs are being implemented," Vought replied. "While I respect that they once had bipartisan backing, the facts we've uncovered show funding being diverted to advocacy and social engineering projects that I don't believe reflect the values of the American taxpayer. We're not against medical aid—we're against the misuse of funds under misleading labels."

With Democrats united against the bill, the White House can afford to lose no more than three Republican votes. Yet, several Republicans on the committee voiced doubts about the choice before them.

Kentucky Republican Sen. Mitch McConnell voiced concern over cutting foreign aid programs. He noted that "at a very low cost" the U.S. had "built some pretty good relationships, particularly in countries in the Middle East that certainly wouldn't be described as democratic."

"Reforming the way we invest in peace and stability is certainly worthwhile. And there's plenty of absolute nonsense masquerading as American aid that shouldn't receive another bit of taxpayer funding," he said. "But the administration's attempt to root it out has been unnecessarily chaotic. In critical corners of the globe, instead of creating efficiencies, you've created vacuums for adversaries like China to fill."

Collins was among several senators who expressed frustration with the administration over the rescission request. "What is unusual here is to have a rescission sent up without consultation with the committee that applies to funding that was in the continuing resolution which the president signed into law," she said, adding that the "legitimate examples" of waste all dated to the Biden administration.

Disclosure: This story was reported and written by NPR Reporter Scott Neuman with reporting from NPR Congressional Correspondent Deirdre Walsh. It was edited by Deputy Business Editor Emily Kopp and Managing Editors Gerry Holmes and Vickie Walton-James. Under NPR's protocol for reporting on itself, no NPR corporate official or news executive reviewed this story before it was posted publicly.

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Scott Neuman
Scott Neuman is a correspondent for NPR's Enterprise Desk, based in Washington, D.C.